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Post by barbaranixon on Nov 13, 2012 14:40:47 GMT -5
Parting with her and replacing her with another dog reduces her to the status of an object, instead of a living animal.
Rescue people get very angry when offered an old dog, so someone can have a new one. A certain well known rescue had someone ask them to swap his old dog for younger (in his eyes) 'better' dog; he was refused.
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Post by andrewleck on Nov 13, 2012 14:44:21 GMT -5
Sorry but neither of you sound like greyhound people. You don't own a grey, they are equals in a family. No wonder the poor girl is upset, sounds like she isn't allowed in half the rooms in the house. Mi sofa es tu sofa!!
As for always crying for food maybe you aren't feeding her enough? Don't know what your regime is for meal times but I only feed once a day, the difference being this is left down all day for the hounds to self feed, once they get used to this idea you will find hounds don't overfeed and gobble but will just eat what they need when they want, vastly reducing the risk of bloat, food stealing, food anguish etc etc.
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Post by highlandnlights on Nov 13, 2012 14:48:40 GMT -5
All I can say after reading on more with slight horror is if all this is genuine and not a wind up can Duchess please come to Greyhound Gap? I have already secured a potential foster home for her where she would be indulged and allowed to be a typical old greyhound bag for the rest of her days. I feel saddened for her. In fact my heart breaks for her. There is no greater hurt in the world than feeling unwanted. I would beg you to ask your husband NOT to get another dog in the future. What happens when they grows old/cantankerous and has needs? Is that dog then cast aside and replaced?  I know I am probably out of line saying this but I hope to god you are years older than him and that he doesnt find you an inconvenience in the future or you may get traded in. I honestly feel so hurt for this dog. Please please for Duchess's sake discuss it. We have a place ready and waiting for her and are happy to take her NOW literally. We had this discussed tonight and for the moment the issue is... hanging in the air. In case we rehome her, I'll send you a PM, although we've a SPCA centre nearby where pets are treated fairly well. And yes, you've been out of line there because, sorry, I hope my husband's feelings are a bit more respecteful towards a woman than an animal. I feel great love towards any nature living being, from plants to animals, but I wouldn't put my cyclamens on the same level as mankind. |
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Post by Lisa on Nov 13, 2012 14:51:52 GMT -5
She has been a loyal companion for 7 years she deserves as much if not more consideration. I split up with my partner of 11 years at Christmas my choice and have a new relationship he understood from day one although not a dog person my dogs mean the world and more and mine are VERY difficult dogs. Many here will be feeling upset as likewise when the dogs became a problem for one partner they ended their otherwise very happy relationships. We are all very very very much dog people.
The SSPCA would mean COLD kennels for an old dog. What we are offering is a home with a sofa and other greyhounds for company where she would be loved and cherished. Greyhounds are our life blood and we adore them literally. The SSPCA are good BUT much the same as the RSPCA if dogs get overlooked they are then forced to euthanise them due to lack of kennel space so she WOULD be at risk of pts. I can guarantee you the only thing she would be guaranteed of with Gap is respect, love, adoration, warmth, pigs ears, good food and cuddles. We are breed specialists and she is much better in the hands of those who love, understand and cherish them especially the seniors!
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Post by andrewleck on Nov 13, 2012 14:53:19 GMT -5
but I wouldn't put my cyclamens on the same level as mankind. Believe me, there is no way on earth I would put any of my hounds on the same level as you either  |
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Post by elmuervo on Nov 13, 2012 14:55:55 GMT -5
I'm sure that was an attempt at humour but with the greatest of respect, cyclamens aren't sentient beings   Greyhound Gap would offer your girl the best possible chance of a wonderful, happy future. We would be mortified if anyone ever considered that we treat our hounds "fairly well". Please do the right thing for all concerned. Jo x |
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Post by highlandnlights on Nov 13, 2012 14:56:53 GMT -5
Sorry but neither of you sound like greyhound people. You don't own a grey, they are equals in a family. No wonder the poor girl is upset, sounds like she isn't allowed in half the rooms in the house. Mi sofa es tu sofa!! I know I'm not, I would be far from allowing any of my pets all over the place. This was for my cats, dogs, birds, etc. However, it isn't me who went collecting her at the rehoming centre. If you don't 'own' a grey, someone of the rehoming centre could inform my husband of few things some commenters posted here in response to my topic. He would have probably renounced to have one if told before. By what I can read, Duchess was never treated as a grey at all, because it seems they love people around (and she was quite alone all time because she lived alone with someone who was working long hours) and that they're free to jump anywhere (she has been relegated in one place years before I was there). |
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Post by Lisa on Nov 13, 2012 15:01:07 GMT -5
I do feel the need to itterate again with the SSPCA most people wont go to the rescue and willingly take an older hound. They are often euthanised or end their days cold and miserable in a kennel. Greyhound Gap specialises in and adores the old dogs. We recently took a batch of 9 in and they ALL found wonderful hounds with our main bunch of volunteers. We adore them and empathise with them fully she would be guaranteed never to have to face a kennel again with us even if it meant her coming her. We do have a foster home as I said where she can do as she pleases have cuddles if she wants and not if she doesnt want and lounge around with a pile more older hounds as company.
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Post by highlandnlights on Nov 13, 2012 15:03:40 GMT -5
She has been a loyal companion for 7 years she deserves as much if not more consideration. I split up with my partner of 11 years at Christmas my choice and have a new relationship he understood from day one although not a dog person my dogs mean the world and more and mine are VERY difficult dogs. Many here will be feeling upset as likewise when the dogs became a problem for one partner they ended their otherwise very happy relationships. We are all very very very much dog people. The SSPCA would mean COLD kennels for an old dog. What we are offering is a home with a sofa and other greyhounds for company where she would be loved and cherished. Greyhounds are our life blood and we adore them literally. The SSPCA are good BUT much the same as the RSPCA if dogs get overlooked they are then forced to euthanise them due to lack of kennel space so she WOULD be at risk of pts. I can guarantee you the only thing she would be guaranteed of with Gap is respect, love, adoration, warmth, pigs ears, good food and cuddles. We are breed specialists and she is much better in the hands of those who love, understand and cherish them especially the seniors! I let my husband read your post and said he'll think about it. I can't tell you more at the moment. I think that given that he's the owner (legally, given that I'm not), he'll have the last word. Concerning the rest, with all due respect... You can think I'm deluded but we think of each other as soulmates. So none of us would terminate a relationship for a pet, however important she might be. |
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Post by elmuervo on Nov 13, 2012 15:04:28 GMT -5
You have a genuine offer from this charity of giving Duchess the opportunity of spending the rest of her life loved, safe, indulged and spent in the company of other hounds. Duchess is no longer a 'highly adoptable' dog. Her age is very much against her, and her chances of being conventionally rehomed are slight. How you live your life is your business and your prerogative - of course it is - but please defer to the opinions of people who are experts in the care of these most sensitive of dogs. Your new family structure and the associated relationships and conflicting priorities can no longer offer her what she needs. We have a family who can. Jo x |
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Post by Lisa on Nov 13, 2012 15:05:55 GMT -5
Please do consider my offer. Regardless of my feelings personally or your feelings personally in this situation Duchess is the single MOST important thing something I am sure we can ALL agree on. My word is most definately my honour as anyone here can tell you. I can guarantee she would end her days adored, happy, spoilt and treated with the upmost love and respect.
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Post by andrewleck on Nov 13, 2012 15:06:39 GMT -5
However, it isn't me who went collecting her at the rehoming centre. If you don't 'own' a grey, someone of the rehoming centre could inform my husband of few things some commenters posted here in response to my topic. He would have probably renounced to have one if told before. By what I can read, Duchess was never treated as a grey at all, because it seems they love people around (and she was quite alone all time because she lived alone with someone who was working long hours) and that they're free to jump anywhere (she has been relegated in one place years before I was there). And in that paragraph you have just proved why you should pass Duchess to Gap before ever considering a generic homing center. Whilst Greys are the gentlest and easiest of creatures to share your lives with, they are not typical dogs. They don't want stress they just want a comfy warm bed or sofa 23 hours a day. They will cuddle you when they have decided they trust you, and then they will be there for life. |
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Post by alexandsteve on Nov 13, 2012 15:07:06 GMT -5
It really does seem to be a very difficult situation for you and your husband.
Seriously, if you really do love animals like you say you do then handing her to Gap would be the best thing for her. As Lisa said, Gap are sight hound specialists and have a home already waiting for her if she needs one.
If she ends up in a pound/ dogs home then she could be overlooked time and time again and may never get the chance of a real home again or even face euthanasia.
If you do have to part with her, at least give her the best and let her go with Gap.
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Post by samburns on Nov 13, 2012 15:07:47 GMT -5
However, it isn't me who went collecting her at the rehoming centre. If you don't 'own' a grey, someone of the rehoming centre could inform my husband of few things some commenters posted here in response to my topic. He would have probably renounced to have one if told before. By what I can read, Duchess was never treated as a grey at all, because it seems they love people around (and she was quite alone all time because she lived alone with someone who was working long hours) and that they're free to jump anywhere (she has been relegated in one place years before I was there). What's done is done.....maybe had your husband come to Greyhound Gap for advice and support in years gone by things would be different, but maybe not..... Greyhounds really are a breed apart  I think the really important thing to focus on now is what is in Duchess' best interests....... please please take on board everything Lisa has said, Duchess would have a wonderful life in her twilight years if you and your husband agreed to sign her over to Gap |
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Post by highlandnlights on Nov 13, 2012 15:07:59 GMT -5
I'm sure that was an attempt at humour but with the greatest of respect, cyclamens aren't sentient beings It was an attempt at humour but I love my plants beyond reason so pls respect the plants-flowers lovers too |
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