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Post by jodav on Jul 21, 2015 13:35:58 GMT -5
Despite some excellent advice in the past, (thanks Sam Burns) today ... again ... we have a hound who refuses Drontal worming tablet. We have tried chilling the tablets, halving them, hiding in Camembert, blue vein cheese, cream cheese, peanut butter, chicken, ham, sausage. Tomorrow I will be searching out some liver pâté and making a tuna cake laced with serious garlic! What next? Change to another brand? Tracy is a clever hound and sees through sleight of hand for example eat this ordinary piece of cheese and now the tablet containing cheese. Any other ideas out there? Thanks.
Jo
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Post by lurcherlot on Jul 21, 2015 15:49:54 GMT -5
If you crushed it (I use a garlic press for the tough ones) and then either put it in her food or in pate - however on second thoughts I have a feeling that crushing isn't recommended with worm pills? I'm sure somebody will confirm or deny .... I presume you can't slide it into the side of her mouth and hold it shut gently?
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Post by vickyb on Jul 21, 2015 16:06:20 GMT -5
Is that the flavour ones? Only Sapphy will eat and flavour tablet, the others spit them out. Have you tried a little jar of salmon paste? it's smelly so hides smells well. What about giving them her tiny bit every day without a tablet in it so hopefully she wont be so suspicious.
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Post by sharonhigh45 on Jul 22, 2015 2:31:42 GMT -5
I usually put some flora or butter on the pill and pop it into their mouth until they have swallowed it, end up with ughy sticky fingers!
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Post by lurcherlot on Jul 22, 2015 3:04:37 GMT -5
For my own dogs, it's open mouth, push pill well back, close mouth - job done  Greyhounds are obviously a different matter. |
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Post by jodav on Jul 22, 2015 3:57:25 GMT -5
Is that the flavour ones? Only Sapphy will eat and flavour tablet, the others spit them out. Have you tried a little jar of salmon paste? it's smelly so hides smells well. What about giving them her tiny bit every day without a tablet in it so hopefully she wont be so suspicious. Vicky it's not the chicken flavour tablets unfortunately - we bought a year's worth of tablets for 2 dogs on line for economy. Will try flavoured next time. Also I think your idea of salmon paste or similar given in small amounts regularly beforehand to divert suspicion is the way forward so thanks for that. I was reading that some owners actually train their dogs to take tablets if medication is needed regularly. I'm pretty sure Trace had sussed out that, out of the ordinary, smelly cheese offered in a ball, when it feels like teatime, together with tension in mother's body language means something is different. Paddy - bless him, will swallow anything. |
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Post by jodav on Jul 22, 2015 4:06:20 GMT -5
For my own dogs, it's open mouth, push pill well back, close mouth - job done Greyhounds are obviously a different matter. Liz - thanks for this as well. Actually we did have a go at putting the tablet on her tongue but I didn't put it far enough back and she kept it on her tongue and spat it triumphantly out! Then kept her teeth clenched  It definitely isn't all greyhounds! Sharon - I read about the butter idea on line and it's one to bear in mind. |
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Post by gazer on Jul 22, 2015 4:28:53 GMT -5
Greyhounds seem to be notorious for spitting meds out, Alf would never take Tramadol and they are a capsule which I wouldn't think has any taste  I resorted to getting his mouth open with one hand holding the top part of his muzzle then very quickly push it down his throat with the other hand, if you can get it far enough down, they can't spit it back out. Not good but if all else fails.... I think the treat, paste idea is good to try for a while before you attempt the pills, that may work, but these dogs are not dim are they. Liver cakey with garlic that's really smells too. Good Luck  |
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Post by lurcherlot on Jul 22, 2015 6:35:39 GMT -5
For my own dogs, it's open mouth, push pill well back, close mouth - job done Greyhounds are obviously a different matter. Liz - thanks for this as well. Actually we did have a go at putting the tablet on her tongue but I didn't put it far enough back and she kept it on her tongue and spat it triumphantly out! Then kept her teeth clenched It definitely isn't all greyhounds! Sharon - I read about the butter idea on line and it's one to bear in mind. You really have to shove the pill well down their gullet! Sounds awful, but it's a speedy action - I've yet to have any of them cough or splutter! They also get a treat afterwards. |
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Post by jodav on Jul 22, 2015 15:09:47 GMT -5
Well thanks to everyone for their experiences and advice - much appreciated. Liz I will definitely keep your advice up my sleeve Just to bring this whole thing to a close and to possibly help others, I'm relieved to say that Tracy swallowed the Drontal tablet inside the tuna cake today! I thought hard about the actual act of giving the tablet. Using the squidgy tuna cake I'd made and giving both dogs small pieces earlier in the morning as a rehearsal, I warmed up a small piece of cake and hid part of the tablet inside. I offered the cake to Tracy where she sat and tried to be casual, almost restricting her access to the cake by locking my fingers. She was hooked by the smell, probably the garlic, and ate it complete. It may or may not work next time but I have learned that being tense and up-tight and doing something out of the ordinary is not going to help a dog swallow a tablet if they are not keen. And if all else fails - well it's the back of the tongue followed by a treat Jo |
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Post by vickyb on Jul 23, 2015 16:15:48 GMT -5
Unfortunately our Bridge girl Trixie was a total nightmare with tablets. Towards the end of her life she was prescribed vetmedin for her heart which are pretty big whether you have them as capsules or tablets. There was no way we could trick her into taking them so had to put them down her throat. It was so traumatic that she would spit and bite me and got that she wouldn't go near me at all or come for her food as she knew it meant a tablet would follow  Believe me we tried everything and eventually the vet said that it was doing more harm than good to her heart and meant that her last months would be spent stressed and hating me so we went back to fortekor which was easier to get down her. It was really awful  You can buy a device to push the pill down their throat, even tried that but it was no better |
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Post by jodav on Jul 24, 2015 2:18:09 GMT -5
That must've been such a difficult time for you Vicky. Refusing a worming tablet is one thing but resisting vital medicines and the resultant stress is another level. I don't see very much written about this subject as it must affect quite a few owners, but maybe I have missed it.
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Post by Andy & Justine on Jul 26, 2015 16:39:51 GMT -5
I can sympathise with our experiences worming our greyhounds... Ben is very belly-driven and as long as we halve the tablet (as he has the big single dose) he is fine with the wormer wrapped in ham as all he can see is the ham coming towards him. Unfortunately, Lucy, who is picky at the best of times, is a pain in the a*** and she has to have 3 little ones. If we split them in half and wrap them well enough in ham, she will take it as long as it's put far back in her mouth - other than that, it's the tablet at the back of the mouth and hold the jaw shut approach or it keeps re-appearing increasingly sticky on the floor. Kylie wasn't too bad luckily and pretty much just took them with the ham. We've got the trauma again in the next few weeks. It really can be frustrating when you're trying to give them something like that. Good luck!! J
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Post by Ted on Jul 27, 2015 0:26:57 GMT -5
Merlin is very difficult when I try to give him a tablet of any type/remedy. Yes you can try to force open his jaw and put the tablet down his throat and then hold his jaw closed tightly and make him swallow the tablet by stoking the bottom of his throat. Then it is even worse if I need to give him a second tablet. I find the best method is to crush his tablets and stir them into his Naturediet evening meal, the main problem with him being 33 kilos he has to be given 4 Drontal Tablets. To get Merlin to eat his food I have to make sure he is not frightened by any noise he is bothered about as he then will not eat nor drink anything as he is very noise sensitive . I can not give him treats to cover any tablets as he is not bothered about treats. Looking at the internet about crushing tablets the only ones that can't be crushed is the type of tablet that is a slow release type of tablet.
Mickey-Finn sometimes has to have Synoquin but I have found you can get Synoquin in capsule form that can be opened to spread the contents over his food. Metacam being a liquid form must be spread on their food at the level for their weight.
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Post by Andy & Justine on Jul 28, 2015 17:02:33 GMT -5
Ted - have you tried the Drontal XL tablet?? I believe it's ok for dogs up to 35 kg at least. We give it to Ben as he's around 31 - 32 kg and much easier than the performance we have giving several to the girls. We do have to split Ben's in half though or he can't swallow it J
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