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Post by Rachel and Daisy on Mar 22, 2013 11:51:59 GMT -5
Hi Guys
So the vast majority of Daisy's teeth are pearly white and very healthy looking, but the other day as she was yawning, I noticed one of her smaller back molars on the lower jaw looking dodgy. Its difficult to see as it is obscured by the big mothers in front of it and is sort of tucked away behind the big top molars as well. However, I have managed to get a closer look today and it is covered in what looks like a beigy substance - I am guessing plaque?
She gets plaque off and neem powder in her breakfast and dinner everyday and usually a cigar rawhide chew everyday. She is fed a healthy diet with lots of fresh veg, meat, fish and arden grange so what I am wondering is, is am I going to have to resort to the dreaded brushing and is there a really good technique for getting to these pesky very back ones?
Thanks in advance oh teeth cleaning experts!
Rach
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Post by barbaranixon on Mar 22, 2013 12:44:40 GMT -5
My Izzy had aweful teeth, but would not allow brushing and despite trying all the usuals (Plaque -off, frageria) we had to resort to regular dentals, despite his bad heart.
Joly is also a brush refuser and had extractions at an early age. However, we discovered Fish4Dogs treats and both Joly and Teddy have quite good teeth, now (though being cavaliers they do lose front teeth, as they are not deeply rooted). I have not used bones for years, after Izzy broke off a sharp piece (could have caused internal damage) and broke a canine in the process.
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Post by andywillow on Mar 22, 2013 13:24:23 GMT -5
Rachel I use Dorwest herbs roast dinner flavoured toothpaste and dip the brush in neem powder before brushing. I've not had a dog yet who hasn't allowed me to brush their teeth, if Daisy doesn't like the brush at first try just dipping your finger in the toothpaste and powder and gently rubbing it round her gums and teeth. Willow is the one here who made me realise I had to do something as she has had 3 dentals, although the last one wasn't down to her teeth it was the receeding gums that caused the problems, her teeth are really good now. She has the most awful teeth and if they aren't cleaned within a matter of weeks after a dental her gums bleed again, they have been fab since using neem and daily brushing, I am persistent though and never miss a day. I do my lots after they've had their tea, once they lay down they all lay nicely whilst I have a good scrub around, even Joe doesn't mind it!  Trevor even sits and gives his paw when you go towards him with the brush  I like the dorwest herbs toothpaste as its in a tub rather than a tube and is much more economical even though its not cheap it does last a long time. None of mine have ever had a dental apart from Willow and are all 9 and over now and the vets always say how good their teeth are when they go for their annual boosters. The only time I ever miss cleaning is usually Roy's after seeing him munch a pile of dog poo |
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Post by Rachel and Daisy on Mar 22, 2013 13:35:57 GMT -5
Ahhhh thanks for all the brill advice and I will get brushing as soon as I can get some yummy toothpaste and a brush as there is no way I want Diddley to have to endure a dental if I can avoid it and the rest of her teeth are really good.
Knew I could rely on you guys to see me right - thanks a million.
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Post by mtbbuxton on Mar 22, 2013 16:01:27 GMT -5
I've not used these but have heard good reports on them
lintbells
It may be easier to use than a normal brush. You could also try the Stag Bars as they're very popular here - even with my Daisy in spite of her only having 5 teeth left now 
Moira x
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Post by andywillow on Mar 22, 2013 16:11:56 GMT -5
I've not used these but have heard good reports on them
lintbells
It may be easier to use than a normal brush. You could also try the Stag Bars as they're very popular here - even with my Daisy in spite of her only having 5 teeth left now
Moira x
None of mine would entertain the stag bars!! Offered it to all of them and none even attempted to give it a try!! They are very expensive if they don't like them! |
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Post by lilypie on Mar 22, 2013 16:17:01 GMT -5
Harry has the most mangy mouth ever and following his last dental i have really tried hard with the brushing and it does get easier, long toothbrushes rather than finger brushes and logic seem to go down well and he has hexarinse also for his gingivitis.
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Post by andywillow on Mar 22, 2013 16:21:06 GMT -5
Harry has the most mangy mouth ever and following his last dental i have really tried hard with the brushing and it does get easier, long toothbrushes rather than finger brushes and logic seem to go down well and he has hexarinse also for his gingivitis. Neem powder is fabulous of bleeding gums, its worked magic on Willow, also Juno who came here and her gums were bleeding so bad, within a few days of smearing neem on them the bleeding stopped, it really is good. |
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Post by vickyb on Mar 22, 2013 17:45:36 GMT -5
I think the Lintbells fabric finger toothbrush is great to start with and they're surprisingly effective. Ours all get brushed every night, I like the Beaphar toothbrushes best (vetuk)I find the shape of the handle makes them easier to use than others. They prefer CET toothpaste best, it really does cling to continue breaking down the plaque. Bods teeth were green when he arrived and they're pearly white now. I find toothbrushing is one of the most rewarding things you can do for them (if they let you)Over time it does make a massive difference. I got a stag bar but it never gets chewed - moved around but not chewed! I did read that you can try soaking them if they're not keen but not tried it. |
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Post by james on Mar 22, 2013 18:32:59 GMT -5
Suspect that the beige stuff is tartar and not plaque meaning that this is a hard substance which will probably not shift with brushing. Hard chews etc may crack it off if you are very lucky.You can usually crack it off a horses teeth with a pair of needlenose pliers but I wouldn't dare try this in a dog.Vet job I'm afraid.
James
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Post by barbaranixon on Mar 23, 2013 7:36:22 GMT -5
Some dog just will not tolerate having their teeth brushed. After finding that Izzy didn't like brushing, I started , with a finger, on Joly and Teddy as young pups. Teddy was quite happy and tried to steal the Logic tube, but though he likes Logic, Joly will not tolerate having his mouth messed with. In fact he doesn't like the vet looking in his mouth either; no known reason, but he gets very agitated.
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Post by mtbbuxton on Mar 23, 2013 15:09:51 GMT -5
I've not used these but have heard good reports on them
lintbells
It may be easier to use than a normal brush. You could also try the Stag Bars as they're very popular here - even with my Daisy in spite of her only having 5 teeth left now
Moira x
None of mine would entertain the stag bars!! Offered it to all of them and none even attempted to give it a try!! They are very expensive if they don't like them! We had a small and a medium stag bar and they both preferred the small one - it was darker and probably tasted better. The medium was chopped in half lengthways and instantly became a big hit  Moira x |
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Post by dogess on Mar 23, 2013 15:18:19 GMT -5
Have you tried giving your dogs raw chicken wings or small carcasses
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Post by andywillow on Mar 23, 2013 16:19:08 GMT -5
Have you tried giving your dogs raw chicken wings or small carcasses I cant bring myself to fed my dogs raw chicken, maybe its to do with how I was brought up but raw chicken is salmonella poisoning to me! Also I have very greedy dogs who would probably choke eating them whole so I personally would rather just clean their teeth  |
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Post by Rachel and Daisy on Mar 24, 2013 5:01:04 GMT -5
Not chicken no, but I was goig to try some raw knuckle bones when I can get to the butchers as I have heard that they are good for the teeth also?
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