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Post by greybeard on Apr 1, 2014 14:31:11 GMT -5
Patience - lots and lots of patience!We were warned by Perry's foster mum that when he'd eaten he needed to have a wee.Chris turned his back for 1 minute and big puddle on kitchen floor.It took a while but we got there.Like others have said it's early days and it takes time for them to really settle.Suppose we were lucky cos he always chose to have "accidents" in the kitchen/dining area which are both ceramic tiled.Back to basics can be very boring - you stood there giving the encouragment and they do anything but.But in the end it works - just persevere.Cath
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Post by Nettie on Apr 1, 2014 15:48:17 GMT -5
Of course he won't understand cue words if he hasn't been taught them. I'd just stick with one word for both. While he's performing use your cue word, tell him how good he is and reward him. What he'll learn is going outside makes you really happy and he gets loads of praise and rewards. Unless you catch him going inside and can tell him no and move him outside then you should just quietly clean up the mess. His lesson will be outside = party time, inside = nothing, nadda, no response, no party. Guarantee the penny will drop and he'll opt for the party!
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Post by perseus on Apr 2, 2014 1:45:06 GMT -5
Out in the garden there is more chance of him laying a golden egg than urinating on it. I took him to the junction in the road first thing this morning which is only 20 metres away, where he urinated immediately and instantly rewarded him. Many dogs pass this point and it's obviously a major scenting area. Since we had woken up by then, I took him round the block for about 15 mins and he urinated once more once more and defecated twice. now time for my coffee, whilst he plays in my bedroom.
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Post by perseus on Apr 2, 2014 2:16:58 GMT -5
He has just been banished from my bedroom for shredding my comb. Don't think there is anything sharp on it. Perhaps better if I keep him outside bedroom and study when I'm not in, too much potential for danger.
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Post by gvgeam on Apr 2, 2014 2:49:59 GMT -5
Congratulations on adopting Milo, he looks like a real cutie.
As others have said it's back to basics. Take him outside regularly, use a 'command' word and then praise when he 'performs'. I use 'toilet'. With Maple, although she was clean, I made sure she knew that outside is the place to go by using 'toilet' every time she went out and began to have a wee or poo. She now understands that 'toilet' means just that. This is important for us as we are often away from home with the caravan or at car shows, so I need to be able to tell her it's ok to go to the toilet here. He needs to learn what you expect from him, it's not going to happen overnight, and you also have to learn his cues that tell you he needs to go out etc.
Milo doesn't know what's expected of him as he's only lived in your home since Friday. It's down to you to teach him everything about his new world. This includes toileting, and where he's allowed to play, lie, eat and where he will be when you're not in the house. It's a whole new environment for him even though he's lived in a home before.
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Post by sharonhigh45 on Apr 2, 2014 3:09:15 GMT -5
Perseus, everything that has been said above is the way to go and if you persevere through these early days you will come out the other end with what will be a very special bond between you and Milo, I call my pets my kids because like children they have to be taught what is right and what is a no no,and yes poor little thing will be feeling stressed in the new environment, we still have our moments with Moss and he is two and we have had him as I said for five months and he can still be a little tinker but I would not swap him for anything, please keep us all updated,onwards and upwards.
Shazx
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Post by perseus on Apr 2, 2014 9:21:30 GMT -5
Tried going out for half an hour, rushed back from local shops.
I couldn't see anything to start with, but later I saw the telephone had been pulled off the hook, but no wires chewed. Might try just the kitchen next time but the room isn't very big and the cupboards don't lock. Friend has offered to sell her fabric cage, but it might be too small for Milo.
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Post by alexandsteve on Apr 2, 2014 9:48:38 GMT -5
Telephone off the hook is ok! Not much in the grand scheme of things in fact that's pretty damn good  if he's doing ok where he is try to stick with it, so it's a little routine for him, he may not like been shut in a room or cage - keep going out like you did today, hive him a stuffed kong and see how he goes. I don't think the phone off the hook us a big deal. Xxx |
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Post by sharonhigh45 on Apr 2, 2014 10:56:40 GMT -5
I totally agree with alexandsteve phone off the hook is not bad, I have had past dogs including pups who have stripped wallpaper chewed furniture, but if possible try to give him something such as a stuffed kong,as a very wise person at GG told me not long ago don't stress too much before going out as they pick up on it!
He looks a lovely boy and again cannot stress too much that it is patience all the way, I know how you feel about coming home in case there is damage and like today I have been out for 3 hours and when I got back everything was fine so they were praised and fussed and told how good they have been and they love it.
Shazx
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Post by perseus on Apr 2, 2014 11:58:09 GMT -5
I will push some chairs up against that area so he can't get to the shelf with the wires
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Post by burnsider on Apr 3, 2014 1:26:04 GMT -5
...... phone off the hook is not bad, ..... ....unless he's phoned the Sydney speaking clock!  Some dogs don't like to "go" in their own garden. I knew one who would ask to go out , then sit patiently by the gate. Once through the gate, no problem! A few more short walks may be needed. I found a stuffed Kong great when leaving, until it's preparation was associated with being left then the stress started earlier. Best success for me has been confusion tactics - - get ready to leave then sit down and read a book for five minutes
- get ready to leave, walk out of sight, then immediately go back
- get ready to leave then take off your coat etc and stay in.
With the chairs in front of the shelf, can you leave them there permanently?
Patience is the big key, and trying to NOT anticipate failure. They recognize your feelings only too well!
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Post by perseus on Apr 3, 2014 1:59:20 GMT -5
He peeed on the floor about 6pm yesterday and vomited up grass about 7am, we rushed out to his favourite fouling spots and we had a bonanza there. Will leave him for an hour today. The chairs could go up semi permanently, except they have prevented him from accessing stuff on the table. I will box this up if I can find a box.
I bought him a maxi roll to chew to occupy him, but it suggests it needs to be given under supervision. He likes the CSJ food sample which came through the post yesterday, and one of the brands recommended by houndsfirst. I have three free samples of different foods which should last three days.
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Post by sharonhigh45 on Apr 3, 2014 3:13:23 GMT -5
Perseus, I wish I could reassure you because we have all been there at some time, as I said it was only last Saturday that my lurcher peed in the kitchen after being in the garden all afternoon with us,so your little boy who has experienced upheaval and is young will have accidents it is only to be expected, he would have to be a perfect dog not to do anything, he does look gorgeous from the picture you have put up,regarding wires etc,they are like children and we have to try and anticipate what they might do and remove any temptations,my lurcher's foster mum warned us that he liked mobile phones and tv remotes so they were removed but funny enough he has not touched them when we fogot, we did have some duvet ripping a few weeks ago but they are cheap enough so no problem,when we moved house 15 months ago our other lurcher weed all over the bed two days running which was hassle but then they can do that when they are stressed, so keep doing what you are doing and persevere, if you want to talk you can always leave a personal message,good luck.
Shazx
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Post by lurcherlot on Apr 3, 2014 3:31:44 GMT -5
I bought him a maxi roll to chew to occupy him, but it suggests it needs to be given under supervision. He likes the CSJ food sample which came through the post yesterday, and one of the brands recommended by houndsfirst. I have three free samples of different foods which should last three days. I would suggest you stuck to the same food! Giving him different ones might well upset his tummy .... find a brand that he likes and feed it all the time. |
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Post by perseus on Apr 3, 2014 3:38:49 GMT -5
The rescue labs I used to look after during the day were very clean and relatively well behaved inside my house despite not being very well treated by their current owners in my opinion (left in before I started to do it, dirty home, sometimes hit) so much for lab rescue checks.
The border collie lab cross I had was brilliant, one accident and instruction as a pup and he was OK for the rest of his life and lived till he was 17, so it's unknown territory for me.
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