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Post by Ted on Jun 28, 2015 0:49:07 GMT -5
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-animals.htmlAs the link no longer works select the above and then to find this story you have to search on Rimadyl also called Carprodyl. Please see the above about a dog killing pain killer. Believed to have caused the deaths of over 3000 dogs. I never allow my hounds to have Rimadyl as there has been alerts about this drug that I know about since I took on Jagger back in 2001. When Jagger was in the RVC at Hatfield to have two neck spinal disc removals he was not recovering at all as they were giving him Rimadyl, even though his medical notes stated he should never be given Rimadyl but only Metacam. Once off Rimadyl and back on Metacam he recovered sufficient for us to take him home to recover properly.
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Post by vickyb on Jun 28, 2015 2:47:39 GMT -5
The link doesn't work but I've read these alerts before. I guess you just have to weigh up the risks as with any drug. Non are without risk sadly.
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Post by gazer on Jun 28, 2015 3:13:25 GMT -5
The Rimadyl discussion has been around for quite a while, as Vicky says you have to look at the risks, all dogs are different as are humans regards to medication.
My greyhound was on Previcox a while back and was very ill, the vet then changed him to a newer anti-inflammatory which gave the same reaction. The only one he was ok on was Rimadyl. I would use it again for him if needs be.
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Post by samburns on Jun 28, 2015 12:31:30 GMT -5
Dickie was on Carprieve (same family as Rimadyl) and it suited him very well where he didn't tolerate some other drugs.
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Post by thedogpack on Jun 28, 2015 17:05:55 GMT -5
There will always be horror stories re various drugs , vaccinations etc . and I always do worry . I guess we have to stay calm and remind ourselves that thousands of dogs receive them without any complications at all , still a worry though .
One of my greys can't tolerate several drugs , one being Tramadol but he is perfect with Rymadol , he was on it quite long term for a bad hock injury . |
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Post by Ted on Jun 29, 2015 7:12:45 GMT -5
There has been a recall of some batches of Tramadol due to them having an unknown substance in them. I very rarely use Tramadol for any of my Hounds but if I do it will be from a batch that has been prescribed to me by my GP as you get the Tramadol in a box with the batch number on it, as I note usually vets just prescribe a quantity which come in a normal container prescribing the quantity to use. Having had a very bad experience with Rimadyl I never use it and even Metacam only if really necessary to relief pain. Another pain killer that is no no is Vetagestic as I have had four very bad responses with my Hounds to this drug, I have had to be up all night comforting my hound who had been given this drug.
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Post by greybeard on Jun 29, 2015 11:05:56 GMT -5
Ted, like others have said you can't predict how a dog will react,same as us.I react to Penicillin V - very rare effect cos I hallucinate to hell so God help me if I need a splenectomy,cos as far as I'm aware that is still the prophalactic antibiotic of choice.In fact,God help me for any surgery cos anything stronger than a Codeine based painkiller has the same effect - and hallucinations are very scary cos you know deep down it's not real but the hallucination takes over - and after,you remember how badly you behaved.Jem reacted badly to Vetergesic - on the trip from hell and you can't rationalise with a dog.And yet she was fine on Methadone - that freaked me out cos I know how strong that stuff is.Perry reacts badly to Gabapentin(and so does Chris) - but it helps a lot of people and an increasing number of dogs.I was always wary of Tramadol cos of what it can do to people - mainly they might be off with the fairies,but just advised relatives appropiately.Perry annd Jem have been fine on it,and contrary to what you stated,have been in boxes like I was used to at work- batch no's and expiry date clearly stamped.But I also know that sometimes for a short course of somehing it may come in a plain white box - so perhaps that's what you're complaining about.We all worry about our hounds and try to research what the best thing is for them - but please Ted,stop scaring people,especially newbies.If I was like that nobody would take penicillin based antibiotics(even though it's only the original strain I react to) or stronger opiates - synthectic or otherwise.Cath
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Post by julies on Jun 29, 2015 11:43:25 GMT -5
I think we should all be very aware of potential side effects of any drug that's prescribed for our beloved animals. I've given Tramadol to my last grey because she was in extreme pain - my vet 'forgot' to tell me it wasn't licensed for dogs which I think is unprofessional- how could she make a decision to give my dog an unlicensed drug?
I have given Metacam BUT I do know dogs that have probably been killed by it so I read the leaflets and take my dog back to the vets if I'm at all worried - I'd never forgive myself if my dog was badly affected or worse still died because of a drug I gave to it BUT I do also weigh up the pain relief etc etc benefits against the risk.
Many people don't read instructions and don't think that drugs do have side effects so I'm glad Ted reminded us that they are not always beneficial.
Julie x
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